Older Bus Photographs from David Beilby
Western Welsh 113 and 145 outside Newquay depot, August 1966
Western Welsh 113 and 145 outside Newquay depot, August 1966
Welsh Instamatic bus photos
[#8406816] 2005-09-12 11:03:08 Left by Phil Willson (#0) Reply
Brilliant! - another photo of my Western Welsh 145 in service. Many thanks for finding that. I recently met one of its main drivers, Dave Lewis, who drove it regularly after passing his PSV test in 1966. If you find any more photos of the Grenadiers then I will be very interested. Cheers, Phil. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philw
[#8427936] 2005-10-13 12:46:24 Left by Colin Scott (#0) Reply
There's a lot of rare pictures here! Marvelous stuff! Are any of the Western Welsh images for sale please? Colin
[#8428077] 2005-10-13 20:42:34 Left by David Beilby (#1028627) Reply
Thank you for your comments. Whilst in theory I'm willing to sell prints I've no mechanism for doing it at the moment, although it's something I'm thinking of to get prints for my own collection off negatives that have never been printed or that the prints are of very poor quality.
[#8428286] 2005-10-14 11:57:10 Left by Colin Scott (#0) Reply
David, Thanks for your reply; copies of the jpegs already scanned would be more than acceptable should you wish to consider releasing them. Colin
[#8428291] 2005-10-14 12:12:38 Left by Colin Scott (#0) Reply
Sorry David, just realised there is a 'buy' option which I have now sorted. Such was my excitement and haste! Colin
[#8524904] 2006-05-28 22:45:01 Left by Gary Watson (#0) Reply
Hi David, fantastic photos. A lot of memories here are any of the SHMD & Ashton Corp photos available to buy. I have no "buy now" link on the pages. Thanks
[#8705434] 2007-12-25 18:17:35 Left by Pam James (#0) Reply
I've enjoyed the SHMD pics and would like to learn more about this interesting operator and its routes. Can you point me to a timetable or map, please? Best wishes! Pam
 
Gelligaer 25 and 10 at Tiryberth depot, 26th October 1969.  (This was the first film I processed myself, hence the marks)
Gelligaer 25 and 10 at Tiryberth depot, 26th October 1969. (This was the first film I processed myself, hence the marks)
Welsh Instamatic bus photos
[#8405290] 2005-09-10 08:23:36 Left by Josh Hayles (#0) Reply
Excellent work David. Very evocative photography stylishly displayed. Thanks.
 
Oldham 368 in Bolton
Oldham 368 in Bolton
Early days of bus preservation
[#8534501] 2006-06-23 15:20:51 Left by Bill Lear (#0) Reply
Hello David, Long time no see! I believe 368 is somewhere in St.Helens now. Have you any idea what its future holds? Bill.
 
Oldham 368 in the works having a replacement diff fitted following a failure at Stone in Easter 1968.
Oldham 368 in the works having a replacement diff fitted following a failure at Stone in Easter 1968.
Early days of bus preservation
[#8459730] 2005-12-02 19:38:14 Left by Peter Hadfield (#0) Reply
Great to see your photos. I remember the days of the 'Crossley Omnibus Preservation Society' and was there when an under-aged driver, who thought it was easy to drive a bus, crashed 368 into the wooden framework round the side of the Oldham bus garage. The mudguard took the full impact. Re 408-12, I was told by an official at the time, that work was stopped when 410 was gutted by fire in the Works, while receiving the same treatment as 409. You may remember that 411 was in a poor state, as anyone walking along at the front of the upper saloon would feel the floor sinking downwards under their feet! I've got b/w photos of Oldham 398 and 106, and colour of 425 449 103 144 and 153, plus M/cr 3234 and North Western 212. {some not that great though} Keep ut the good work..
[#8764469] 2008-08-15 17:27:25 Left by Brian (#0) Reply
That journey - the one that ended at Stone as far as 368 was concerned - was a trip never to be forgotten. Hard to believe it's 40 years ago. Great times. Thanks for posting these photos David, they bring back great memories.
 
A Manchester BUT passes what seems to be a miner cycling home from Bradford colliery, 1966
A Manchester BUT passes what seems to be a miner cycling home from Bradford colliery, 1966
Manchester Area Instamatic photos
[#8601105] 2007-01-21 16:41:39 Left by pete bradshaw (#0) Reply
hundreds have probably said this, but I believe the miner on his moped is opposite Snipe Pit Ashton Moss
 
Manchester 50 in Parrs Wood Road, 1966
Manchester 50 in Parrs Wood Road, 1966
Manchester Area Instamatic photos
[#8547343] 2006-08-04 02:49:06 Left by Ryan (#0) Reply
I think this is a really good picture of this Bus on Parrs Wood Road and in the back ground you can see the oub across the raod from Parrs Wood Technology College Manchester, i see this pub every day and it's diffrent to see it in black & white and all that time ago and the shops in the distance. I would like to see a picture off the 50 bus that goes from Manchester City centre to Parrs Wood if it was in service in those days it would be cool. It would be even better if i could see the 50 bus right outside Parrs Wood High School. Thanks a lot Ryan
[#8601109] 2007-01-21 16:44:18 Left by pete bradshaw (#0) Reply
this is surely Wilmslow road East Didsbury, outside what was then fields but is now "Buckingham Bingo" The Gateway Pub can be seen behind the bus
 
North Western 145 (?) on Oldham Road, Grasscroft, December 1969
North Western 145 (?) on Oldham Road, Grasscroft, December 1969
Manchester Area Instamatic photos
[#8691091] 2007-10-23 12:27:57 Left by John Dixon (#0) Reply
Hi Could this be 155 not 145? I am basing this on North Western practice, if bus was travelling "dead" it was customary to show the Fleet Number in the route box blind. Can't make it out myself but 145 was AJA145B whilst 155 was DDB155C. Some splendid shots on this site. Thanks a million John
 
Hull 218 (JRH 418E) is one of the fleet's Roe-bodied Atlanteans with the unusual flat one-pice screen, January 1968.
Hull 218 (JRH 418E) is one of the fleet's Roe-bodied Atlanteans with the unusual flat one-pice screen, January 1968.
Instamatic Bus Pictures from Yorkshire
[#8594338] 2007-01-02 21:59:49 Left by Paul Morfitt (#0) Reply
JRH 418 E was one in the batch of a batch of 15 Atlanteans numbered 213 to 227 and were origonally to be numbered 413 to 427, hence the number plates being in the 400 series. These were the 1st batch of buses to have the new destination layout, all previous buses had the numbers above the destination box. 218 entered service on the 10/01/67 and was withdrawn on the 27/07/86 which was the day the company became private! I would be greatfull if you could contact me as i would like to purchase a copy of this and any others you may have!!
 
Todmorden 3 (GWW 39) rests in the bus station, April 1970.
Todmorden 3 (GWW 39) rests in the bus station, April 1970.
Instamatic Bus Pictures from Yorkshire
[#8521270] 2006-05-20 22:02:58 Left by Ken Lobley (#0) Reply
You have some great photo's David. Two are of special interest to me as I used to drive both. Todmorden No3, GWW 39 & Todmorden 24, KWX 17. I have photo's of just about all the Tod' fleeet with many from 1907 but I had not seen these two views, though I do have other views of these buses in my albums. If you ever do manage to make copies, I would gladly purchase from you. Thanks again for the memory.. Ken
 
Southampton were one of a few fleets (like Salford) that built up a very standardised fleet after the war.  222 (GTR 484) is one of their many Guy Arab IIIs with Park Royal bodies.
Southampton were one of a few fleets (like Salford) that built up a very standardised fleet after the war. 222 (GTR 484) is one of their many Guy Arab IIIs with Park Royal bodies.
Early Brighton Runs in colour
[#8668510] 2007-08-03 12:48:31 Left by martin balls (#0) Reply
pre preservation Guy Arab pix from Southampton are so rare in colour - this is great! I used to go to school on it!
 
The only surviving BMMO S12 is 3750 (NHA 750), bodied by Metro-Cammell
The only surviving BMMO S12 is 3750 (NHA 750), bodied by Metro-Cammell
Early Brighton Runs in colour
 
London Transport built their own bodies on these diminutive rear-engined Leyland Cub RECs.
London Transport built their own bodies on these diminutive rear-engined Leyland Cub RECs.
Early Brighton Runs in colour
[#8551971] 2006-08-18 17:28:47 Left by Alistair Liddle (#1180383) Reply
Fascinating photographs but the watermark across the centre spoils them all, although I understand why it's there
 
Liverpool L20 at an unknown location in 1966
Liverpool L20 at an unknown location in 1966
Vintage Bus Miscellany
[#8750427] 2008-06-19 07:23:30 Left by Jim Sheppard (#0) Reply
Looking at your photo of Liverpool bus L20, at an unknown location. I think you will find it is at the Old Haymarket, the bottom of St John Lane. The Old Haymarket was fromally a tram terminus. It is located located at the juction at the bottom of both St Johns Lane & William Brown Street, oposite the entrance to the first Mersey Tunnel. At the time L20 was operating out of Litherland Depot at the North end of the city. During that period I was working out of Gillmoss Depot and we had two similar buses L33 & L55, all of them were nearing the end of their operatioal lives and were mainly used at peak hour only times. If you go to website, http://www.tunnelusers.org.uk/history.htm and scroll half way down you can see a coloured photo of the area taken around the same time, with a red Ribble bus parked where your picture of L20 was.
 
A Luton Dennos Loline by the station, August 1969
A Luton Dennos Loline by the station, August 1969
Vintage Bus Miscellany
[#8784428] 2008-11-10 15:51:07 Left by Tony J. Griffin (#1086591) Reply
This Neepsend / Loline Mk. III is just typical of the many buses that should have been preserved instead of the hordes of RT's and RM's ! Tony
 
This line-up at the back of the garage in February 1966 includes a withdrawn Crossley-bodied Daimler CVD6.
This line-up at the back of the garage in February 1966 includes a withdrawn Crossley-bodied Daimler CVD6.
Oldham Instamatic Photos
[#8570133] 2006-10-11 15:03:57 Left by Nick (#0) Reply
Very interesting photos as my dad Dennis Froggatt was a coachpainter/signwriter at Mumps doing the coat of arms adverts etc in the 1950's. He's now 83 and still very active. Describes the maroon as 'Crimson Lake' If you want any info I will ask him?
 
Another Hants and Dorset vehicle was this standard Bristol K6B with ECW body.
Another Hants and Dorset vehicle was this standard Bristol K6B with ECW body.
Stratford Bus of Yesteryear Rally, 31st May 1970
[#8509267] 2006-04-14 18:15:26 Left by David Ballantine (#1078268) Reply
Hi David, Would it be possible to have a copy of yourBristol K6B with ECW body JEL 249 so that I can add it to my Bournemouth Buses homepage. I will naturally give you credit. This is just a hobby of mine and not a commercial venture. I was born in Bournemouth in 1942 and so I am very faniliar with the Hants and Dorset buses of that era of the '50s. It is very hard now to try and find some colour pictures of the H and D of that period let alone of this style bus. Homepage http://members.shaw.ca/dballantine/index.html Take look at my homepage and you will see what I have done. Thanks, David
[#8529905] 2006-06-08 16:42:50 Left by John Young (#0) Reply
Hello David, Just "Googling" on the net and struck gold on your site! One of my old school buses, H & D Leyland PD1 no 1145, GLJ 957. It was way quicker than the other regular bus - Bristol K5G no 1247, JEL 266. I see your pics were taken in 1970. Do you know if the H & D buses in your pics still survive? When I left school in 1965 I worked in the offices of Southampton Corporation Transport when the Guy Arabs were being sold for scrap....if only I'd bought one. The lads in the workshops knew which were the really good ones and rated them better than the short lived 'tin front' Leylands. The new AEC's were well received though. Eventuallly in 1969 I bought a 1912 Aveling & Porter Steamroller instead which has brought me (and others I hope) a great deal of pleasure over the years.....still looking for a bus though! Keep posting the pictures, your site is in 'my favourites' now. Regards John
 
Nottingham's 502 is a six-wheel BUT 9641T with a Brush body.
Nottingham's 502 is a six-wheel BUT 9641T with a Brush body.
Plumtree - an early attempt at a transport museum
[#8516355] 2006-05-10 12:20:45 Left by K.HOPKINSON (#0) Reply
Boy , do i look young in the photo' of Nottingham 502 . what a surprise to see myself all those years ago. i wouldn't mind a copy of it for personal use !
[#8563668] 2006-09-21 11:31:09 Left by Keith Turner (#0) Reply
No, Keith, you didn't look like that, it's trick photography. The OWB had wooden seats as I remember it, the Vulcan originally had a full roof, which was removed because it was unsafe, and I don't think there was actually any wire attached to the bracket arm over 493. The MGO Regent and the West Bridgford utility were both scrapped, as was the OWB, but as far as I know all of the trolleys that passed through Plumtree still survive
 
Nottingham 493 is seen
Nottingham 493 is seen "under the wires" at Plumtree. I am not sure whether this wiring ever served more than a decorative function.
Plumtree - an early attempt at a transport museum
[#8659130] 2007-07-04 16:19:29 Left by David Perkins (#0) Reply
Dear Sir We are the current owers of the goods shed at Plumtree Station, I was wondering if you had any more interesting photographs of the shed/ station? I am sure our customers would be really interested. Yours sincerely David Perkins Perkins Restaurant
 
A mystery Bedford OWB serves to prop up the sign indicating the workshop and small exhibits section in the goods shed (nowadays a restaurant), 15th April 1968.
A mystery Bedford OWB serves to prop up the sign indicating the workshop and small exhibits section in the goods shed (nowadays a restaurant), 15th April 1968.
Plumtree - an early attempt at a transport museum
[#8551934] 2006-08-18 14:21:56 Left by Stephen Allcroft (#0) Reply
The 'mystery OWB looks very much like one in BS Watson's 'Provincial Buses In Colour:1960s. (Ian Allan, Hersham, 2001). On page 78 there's a picture of an OWB in the same livery taken in 1963. There are some differences in the front dome & window area but the signwriting for Ford & Weston Limited Cheltenham & Derby is the same. That OWB had no destination box, upholstered seats and the registration PCH175 (issued 1959). This all suggests it was originally of military origin.
[#8626581] 2007-03-28 00:53:37 Left by Tony J. Griffin (#1086591) Reply
Hello David - hopefully mystery OWB solved. This bus was formerly staff transport for Ford & Weston of Derby, the building firm - livery green and yellow. It was subsequently set fire to "for fun" by the museum people I'm told! I belive Ford & Weston on Osmaston Road had two of these. I remember seeing them as a kid.
[#8784427] 2008-11-10 15:45:47 Left by Tony J. Griffin (#1086591) Reply
This was a staff bus for the contractor Ford & Weston on Osmaston Road, Derby. They had two I believe, in their bright yellow and green colours, often to be seen behind the fence near to Nightingale Road trolleybus turning circle. I believe the Plumtree crowd had a bonfire with this one "for a laugh" Tony, Derby.
 
This vehicle is a Dennis 2-tonner fitted with a replica 19-seat charabanc body.  It is presumed the chassis was originally a lorry.  Thanks to Andrew Colebourne for providing this information.
This vehicle is a Dennis 2-tonner fitted with a replica 19-seat charabanc body. It is presumed the chassis was originally a lorry. Thanks to Andrew Colebourne for providing this information.
Early days of bus preservation - 3
[#8622482] 2007-03-17 22:02:15 Left by Andrew Colebourne (#1061958) Reply
According to Keith Jenkinson's Preserved Vehicle Handbook 1985 this is a Dennis 2-ton with a replica 19 seat toastrack body. No original operator is given so presumably it was originally a lorry.
 
A temporary shortage of vehicles led to the acquisition of a batch of UTA Leyland PS1s, which kept their original livery and fleet number.  The sticker in the destination blind says CIE School Bus.  This bus had been new to the NIRTB in 1946 and had their own body.
A temporary shortage of vehicles led to the acquisition of a batch of UTA Leyland PS1s, which kept their original livery and fleet number. The sticker in the destination blind says CIE School Bus. This bus had been new to the NIRTB in 1946 and had their own body.
Brief Irish Interlude, August 1969
[#8572314] 2006-10-21 10:35:14 Left by graham (#0) Reply
hi i linked this pic from northern ireland message board because its so rare i have a site on buses includes pics of ps1 http://busesireland.fotopic.net/ heres some info on this ps1 tiger its supplied by Howard Cunnigham after my posting on the board. Z7819 was new to Newry on 08/01/1947 and spent most of its life in the area including a lengthy spell at Rathfriland. Near the end of its life, in 1966, it migrated to Magherafelt from where it was withdrawn on 30/06/1967, nearly two months into Ulsterbus days. It was initially hired in October 1967 (later sold) to CIE for Schools Transport and the photograph was taken at Sligo railway station in CIE days, most probably during 1968.
 
I found these Metal Sections bodied Atlanteans rather striking and of course they were unique to Dublin.
I found these Metal Sections bodied Atlanteans rather striking and of course they were unique to Dublin.
Brief Irish Interlude, August 1969
[#8466999] 2005-12-26 15:32:17 Left by Aaron Donohoe (#0) Reply
I was intreaged to see that over seas people to Ireland were interested in our Past "Unique" vehicles. The Atlaneans, R900's(made out of old Leyland Tigers) and the infamous Bombardiers. There are quite a few websites of older Irish Buses: www.preservedirishtransport.com being one and www.freewebs.com/eirebus2004 being another.
 
I know very little about this Bedford OB OPK 510.
I know very little about this Bedford OB OPK 510.
1973 Rochdale Motorcade
[#8686967] 2007-10-06 22:04:52 Left by ED (#0) Reply
I NOTICED THE DISCRIPTION OF YOU PICTURE SAYS YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE OBOUT THIT BEDFORD BUT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP. OPK 510 WAS ONE OF TWO OB'S OWNED BY MY FARTHER AND LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BEING DRIVEN BY MY BROTHER.IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFO LET ME KNOW AND I WILL FIND OUT FOR YOU, I DONT KNOW ALL THE INFO AS I WAS NOT BORN UNTIL 1977. WOULD IT BE POSS TO BUY A COPY OF THE PHOTO MANY THANKS ED.
 
999 registrations were popular with fire brigades and RBU 999 is a more modern water tender from Oldham.
999 registrations were popular with fire brigades and RBU 999 is a more modern water tender from Oldham.
1973 Rochdale Motorcade
[#8513604] 2006-04-29 22:26:16 Left by Neil Fraser (#1002490) Reply
RBU999 is a Water Tender, not a Pump Escape.
[#8513617] 2006-04-29 23:11:31 Left by David Beilby (#1028627) Reply
Thanks, Neil. I've already corrected it. The problem for me is that it had a ladder on top! I've made one or two other corrections based on further research which include adding the original owner to the Merryweather.
 
The ubiquitous Austin 7.
The ubiquitous Austin 7.
1973 Rochdale Motorcade
[#8844113] 2009-07-14 09:59:53 Left by Eric Bawden (#0) Reply
David, I may be wrong but I think the ubiquitous Austin 7 pictured at the 1973 Rochdale Motorcade is actually an Austin10/4
 
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